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title: "The Reframe Podcast"
description: "Real conversations at the intersection of buildings, energy, compliance, and climate."
url: "https://www.pilotlight.ai/podcast"
canonical: "https://www.pilotlight.ai/podcast"
site: "Pilotlight"
date_modified: "2026-09-18T21:48:44.327Z"
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# The Reframe Podcast

Real conversations at the intersection of buildings, energy, compliance, and
climate.

40% of carbon emissions come from buildings. It's a massive problem that must be
solved. Although recent shifts in national policy tend to grab the headlines and
indicate the opposite, the building sustainability movement won't be deterred.
Exceptional people and organizations are making real progress every day —
impressive advances that should be celebrated and shared. (Source for the 40%
figure: Environmental and Energy Study Institute.)

Reframe elevates those conversations and spotlights the leaders in the building
sustainability movement. Join Jeff Nichols and his guests for a compelling,
in-depth exploration of building sustainability.

Listen and subscribe to Reframe wherever you get your podcasts. Have a question
for the Reframe team or an exceptional story to tell? Drop us a note:
reframe@pilotlight.ai

## Episodes

- 20. A Clean Transition — Erin Hauk, Sustainability Program Manager, Puget Sound Energy
- 19. The Greenest Buildings Already Exist — Matt Aalfs, Founding Partner, Building Work
- 18. Stories Of Vision And Progress — Jeff Nichols, Co-Founder, Host of Reframe, Pilotlight
- 17. The Cheapest, Fastest Energy Future — Ben Evans, Federal Legislative Director, U.S. Green Building Council
- 16. Architecture Beyond 2030 — Vincent Martinez, CEO, Architecture 2030
- 15. A System Reckoning Is Coming — Panama Bartholomy, Founder & Executive Director, Building Decarbonization Coalition
- 14. Buildings Have To Behave Better — Ash Awad, President & Chief Market Officer, McKinstry
- 13. The Invisible Asset — Alex Dews, CEO, Institute for Market Transformation
- 12. Bridging Mandates And Momentum — Daniel Poppe, Executive Director, 2030 Districts Network
- 11. Bellevue Part 2: Reframing Building Compliance — Patrick Babbitt, Climate and Energy Program Manager, City of Bellevue
- 10. Bellevue's Bold Climate Commitment — Jennifer Ewing, Sustainability Manager, City of Bellevue
- 9. Building Upgrades That Pay — Dr. Timothy Unruh, Executive Director, NAESCO
- 8. Bridging The Gap — Greg De Temmerman, Deputy CEO & Chief Science Officer, Quadrature Climate Foundation
- 7. Chaos Monkey — Scott Case, CEO & Co-Founder, Recurrent
- 6. The Local Shift — Kerry Meade, Executive Director, Building Potential & Smart Buildings Center
- 5. A New Hurdle — Josh Howes, CEO and Co-Founder, Blue Energy Group
- 4. Don't Get Caught Flat-footed — Perry England, Vice President, Building Performance, MacDonald-Miller
- 3. The Old Playbook Is Dead — Brad Werner, Partner, Construction & Real Estate Practice Lead, Wipfli LLP
- 2. Build Green To Get Green — Steve Barnes, Partner, Wipfli LLP
- 1. Too Good To Be True? — Abby Massey, VP of Energy Incentives, TaxTaker

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